Good evening once again. I wanted to drop in with a quick update to get you guys a few maps from the afternoon model runs. This should tide you over until I get a look at the new runs that will be coming out over the next few hours. It is with the overnight update that I will get a new map out showing my latest thoughts on who gets what and how much from this winter storm.
Let’s take a look at how the NAM shows the progression of the precipitation moving in…
You can see the NAM shows a quick and hard hitting storm that is in and out of town in a matter of 12-18 hours for any one location. The model shows the majority of the heaviest precipitation falling as snow and freezing rain for much of the state with only a switch to some light rain across the south late in the event. By then… the heaviest precip has moved off to our east.
The 18z run of the NAM I look at does not have an ice accumulation map… but it does have a snowfall map. I have pieced together the NAM and GFS snowfall maps from their latest runs and even threw in the GFS Freezing rain accumulation map…
You can see right off the bat the models agree on a northwest to southeast oriented band of accumulating snows on the tune of 1″ to nearly 6″. They do differ a bit on the placement of the snows and that is something they should find common ground with by early Wednesday. They are also different on the amount of snows and that is because the GFS shows mixing getting farther north cutting down on the snow totals. The NAM has also been a wetter model than the GFS as well.
You can see on the GFS that it is spitting out freezing rain for a lot of people and is showing a major ice storm for the southeast. I suspect if we could see the NAM ice map it would show quite a bit more across central Kentucky.
I know many people are asking if this is going to be as bad as the Ice storm of 2009 or 2003 and the short answer is no. Those were historic, long lasting ice storms. This one will be more of a quick hitter, but will still pack a heck of a punch and can cause some significant problems for many areas.
I will have a full update later tonight so be sure to check back. I will also send out some thoughts via twitter. Have a great evening and take care.
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Chris,
you made an appearance on WAVE 3’s blog. Now we know how they always have such a great forecast!
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C’mon NAM be right. I’m in Fayette Co. and the GFS looks a little more dangerous in terms of road conditions if I’m understanding what they are showing correctly
Ok, so if it goes south will neky get more of less snow and/or ice?
I’ll wait and see what the 00z runs look like. But regardless this is gonna be a mess for a lot of folks in Kentucky. Ice is almost a cuss word around here.
more snow I believe
How long will the rain fall and will it do away with the snow cover on the ground?
00z NAM 🙁
Chris,
Thanks for all the hard work. I get all of my weather information from this blog.
this looks like a ice storm for most of the south…farther south i mean…gonna be ugly folks.
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/00/images/nam_p48_048m.gif
Ice Ice Baby! Lets just hope that the Cold Dense Air can hang tough and give us mostly Sleet or snow…this would not be good at all
that would be very bad for lexington metro with 1/2-3/4 of ice.
I still say this will be worse than the TV affiliates in Louisville are telling folks. I could be wrong… but I have a bad feeling about it based on model data…and the fact that it’s 10 degrees right now.
Is it true this Low has takin a farther south jog? Also CB just tweeted, “Wow… the new NAM is rolling in VERY wet. Major snow and ice in a 12 hour window for much of the state.”
Its 14 here with 6 inches of snow still on the ground.
I remember one time when there was a lot of ice. A lot of things happened. They could happen again. Then again, they might not. I also saw an otter once.
What do you guys think along and north of Hal Rogers Parkway?
Just called the temp # its 10 degrees in Middlesboro with 6 inches of snow. Can you say the snow pack is causing it to be VERY cold tonight. Its only 9:45 at night!
after we get through this mess tomorrow and thursday…Joe Bastardi had this to say on his blog a while ago about the weekend storm he believes will be a HEAVY SNOWSTORM along the I-40 corridor…that would mean a big snow for southern ky…
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this is part of his thoughts..
The upper height fall center is coming right through the slot for major mid-Atlantic snow, and this is the kind of storm that has I-40 as an enhancing area of snow from the southern Plains into the mountains of the Carolinas then turns the snow guns on up I-81 and I-95 all the way through the mid-Atlantic and Northeast
According to the 00z NAM…..It’s not looking good at all. Ice Storm City.
Do you think it will happen? A FOOT of snow would be awesome here. The bad part is it would be a wet snow.
so? tim..what totals you looking at for that storm with knox county? where I live…how much snow..
Did he say how much snow for my back yard Tim? LOL….hehehehehe
so the power wont go out.
What do you guys think about justin beiber?
This is what CB just tweeted about Louisville, “A quick glance at the FOUS data from the NAM for Louisville suggest a mostly snow event and a lot of it.”
Mike P.
Your link posting skills need some serious upgrading…! lol
I’m trying to quit…
LOL!!!!
What exactly is the FOUS data and is it saying snow for just Louisville area or all of central Ky?
not much
Thanks for your continued hard work to keeping us updated Chris!!! I have one question if someone could take a sec to answer…it seems like snow then ice for Somerset..but by Thursday it looks like all rain??? So does that mean all the snow and ice will be gone by thursday morning???? Thanks for anyone who responds 🙂
vinny.. Are you Italian..hehe
I’m soooo confused!! Wonder when CB will update again???
My thoughts on the upcoming storm on 3 maps, if anyone is interested
precip type – http://i56.tinypic.com/oka369.jpg
ice accum – http://i56.tinypic.com/5x7vw5.jpg
snow accum –http://i53.tinypic.com/f3ylnr.jpg
Soersetgal,
Fellow Pulaski Co. neighbor. I think it’ll be 11am or later before we go to rain. It’s gonna be a mess here. Ground is so cold that temps aren’t gonna matter til late afternoon.
can anyone lead me to the new nam snowfall total map? Thanks:)
Thanx for sharing and very nice job young man..!
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The 0z nam goes right along with what I’m thinking for this storm.
I was wondering, Will the weekend system hit Eastern Kentucky?
This is the 18z NAM snowfall map. The 00z that everyone is talking about isn’t out yet.
http://wxcaster.com/gis-snow-overlays2.php3?STATIONID=JKL
Wow I like your thoughts!!!! very little ice and 3-5in. snow in my area I hope you are Right!!!!
National Weather Service is giving us in Middlesboro .25 and .50 inch of ice? This has us with none?
how do you see this storm taking shape??? btw…what about this weekend storm?? said it could drop a foot? really?
CB just tweeted this, “Nam snowfall map shows 6″+ for northern and northeastern Ky. NAM ice map is scary for central and southeastern Ky. This includes LEX and LOU.”
not for nottin’, but forget about it…
Yous is gonna get hit, ehh
😉
Thanks Mike!
Vinny, u never did answer me before.. are u Italian…lol
I haven’t even got past this coming storm!!! I’ll get back to you on it though 🙂
I don’t like that idea at all..this is gonna be dangerous folks.
Can we say consistent?
http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_NAM212_SFC_ACCUM-FZRN_72HR.gif
Central ky = Bullseye of upcoming storm.
up to 3/4 inch of ice http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_NAM212_SFC_ACCUM-FZRN_60HR.gif
possibly 6-8 inches of snow for some.
http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_ETA212_SFC_ACCUMSNOWFALL_60HR.gif
I feel like this could be and epic storm maybe not as bad as 03′ or 09′ but definitely honorable mention in terms of winter storms here in the last decade or so.
My understanding is that the bulk of the precipitation would already be through our area by the time the switch occurs. And we would only see light rain/drizzle. I think the main concern with this storm is having to much snow/freezing rain and it bringing down trees and power lines. Not necessarily it hanging around to long.
The good news though is CB has stated it will not be as bad as 2003 or 2009, which did have those levels of precipitation.
Seems that ATM, CB is not buying into the totals.
correct me if i am wrong, but isnt that new nam showing 1 to 1.5 inches of freezing rain along the ohio river?
Ouch talk about a flip flop! Just imagine if that verified…..
Freezing Rain or Snow still very much precip for the Lou. area. Lets hope it is all snow as CB tweeted just a few minutes ago…
TL…What is FOUS???
Very confusing tweets back to back from Chris. First tweet says mostly a snow event for Louisville and a lot of it. The next tweet says NAM ice map is scary for Louisville. Can’t be both can it? If the low is further south on the NAM, wouldn’t that take the ice further south?
What are your thoughts for Bell Co? Are we going to get slammed again? I still haven’t recovered from the 11 inches of snow at my house from the past system.
I am not getting it folks. A lot of pointing out model runs mentioned in posts above, but CB is stating this event will not be that bad. The totals mapped above would be just as bad or worse as 2003 and 2009 for a large area of KY.
If it were going to be that bad, CB would be telling us. Of course, he could update and say he was wrong and it WILL be that bad……….. Extra dots for dramatic effect.
if you read it again..it says ice is a major concern for southeastern kentucky and central kentucky…
Latest snow totals for 00z nam.
http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_ETA212_SFC_ACCUM-SNOWFALL_57HR.gif
Flip flop?
The 12z NAM showed this:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/12/images/nam_p60_072l.gif
18z NAM showed this:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/18/images/nam_p60_072l.gif
0z NAM showed this:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/00/images/nam_p60_072l.gif
and the above. Very consistent.
The main difference I see is the temps. We’ve been in the teens and single digits for a few days now. Now we are gonna throw rain ontop of this frozen tundra…not good…but your right..it won’t be as bad as 03 or 09
Here’s what Chris said in his latest update:
“I suspect if we could see the NAM ice map it would show quite a bit more across central Kentucky.”
I guess he later saw the NAM ice map and it was “scary for central and southeastern Ky”.
How much do you have left now? My inlaws had 14 inches on Laurel Hill. The temp is going to have to be frigid when this system starts with this much snow pack still on the ground.
Moderation time: Sorry if double post:
I am not getting it folks. A lot of pointing out model runs mentioned in posts above, but CB is stating this event will not be that bad. The totals mapped above would be just as bad or worse as 2003 and 2009 for a large area of KY.
If it were going to be that bad, CB would be telling us. Of course, he could update and say he was wrong and it WILL be that bad……….. Extra dots for dramatic effect.
That said, if I look at CB’s tweets, it seems CB is going bi-polar on us, since one post is lots of snow and the next is ice Armageddon.
Is CB drinking the same stuff Rolo does? 😉
SomersetGal, also living here in Somerset my biggest concern is that by the time it switches to rain IF it does the damage to the powerlines and trees will have already been done.
Yeah…thats the biggest concern…we’ve been in the teens for a few days now….by the time it turns to rain…it won’t matter…this is not gonna be good at all 🙁
Well, depends. Here is the latest map.
http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_NAM212_SFC_ACCUM-FZRN_72HR.gif
Also:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/00/images/nam_p60_072l.gif
Except his tweet said scary ice includes both LOU and LEX.
His last tweet said Northern and Northeastern KY was going to get drilled with snow. Then said Central and Southeastern KY was going to get drilled by a Ice Storm. That makes sense to me. All areas are different.
OOOOOMMMMMMMMGGGGGG!! Could it be that my area is in the 6ish to 8ish range!! Just how accurate is this thing???????
i hope so, especially if what chris’s latest tweet is right he’s saying northern ky 6+ (nam showing) and a mess for us..
yep, I agree with you..the ground temps are gonna be solid and everything, this is not gonna be good at all..
by the time rain gets here it wont matter much, it will be awful.
I remember the “dusting” which turned into no electricity for 9 days…so I am a little gun shy when it comes to ice :(…I would take snow anyday!!
One tweet said data suggested all snow for Louisville. Four minutes later he said ice looks scary for LOU. Two different thoughts for the same city.
I agree 100%. I’m not looking forward to this at all. I went to Walmart in Somerset today to get a Kerosene heater. Talk about a mess. You couldn’t even turn around in an isle without bumping into somebody.
another new update!!!
Brandon, We topped off at 13 inches at the house. I am close to backside of Laurel Hill about 5 miles further on down the road. I don’t mind the snow but I hate the thought of the ice this time. Is there any timeline when the switch is suppose to occur?
Still waiting for NWS in Wilmington to issue something. They are still downplaying this system.
how is it looking for elizabethtown?